In North Cyprus how do you do it ?
June 30, 2009 Leave a comment
In North Cyprus has Mr Hasan Sungur, Chairman of the Turkish Cypriot Estate Agents Association lost the plot ??????
June 30, 2009 Leave a comment
This newspaper article features Hasan Sungur and also informs us that Cafer Gurcafer (A Director of AGA Development) is no longer , the Chairman of the Turkish Cypriot Building Contractors’ Union, in fact he was voted out and now we see that he has been replaced by Mr Soner Yetkili
Cafer Gurcafer
We look at this newspaper report and after having read his last one
we have definately come to the comclusion that Hasan Sungur, Chairman of the Turkish Cypriot Estate Agents has finally lost the plot, We must add that this man gave us his word for what it has been worth and promised with all his heart in August 07 after wining and dining us on a few occasions that he would help us.
He has even told us that he has seen paperwork that promises us a solution – we have the email to prove this claim
We are sure he has no knowledge of MORALS !
Moral – Definition
1. Of or concerned with the judgment of the goodness or badness of human action and character: moral scrutiny; a moral quandary.
2. Teaching or exhibiting goodness or correctness of character and behavior: a moral lesson.
3. Conforming to standards of what is right or just in behavior; virtuous: a moral life.
4. Arising from conscience or the sense of right and wrong: a moral obligation.
5. Having psychological rather than physical or tangible effects: a moral victory; moral support.
6. Based on strong likelihood or firm conviction, rather than on the actual evidence: a moral certainty.
nor does he know where the truth end and lies begin
[05] Chairman of the Turkish Cypriot Estate Agents: When we sold real property to the foreigners we were giving them security of telling them Turkey is here, the Turkish army is here
Turkish daily Milliyet newspaper (29.06.09) publishes a report by Sefa Karahasan, the papers correspondent in occupied Lefkosia, regarding the sales of real property in the occupied areas of the Republic of Cyprus. The paper under the title The sales of real property in TRNC were stopped with the Orams decision, reports that the decision of the European Court of Justice on the 28th of April regarding the Orams case dealt a blow to the real property sector.
The paper reports:
Fifteen thousand houses are unsold in the occupied areas. The representatives of the sector made a call on Turkey to back the title deeds they sell to the foreigners. A great number of the real property is built plots which belonged to the Greek Cypriots before 1974. The foreigners want a guarantee for the TRNC title deed which is given to them when they buy real property.
Mr Hasan Sungur, Chairman of the Turkish Cypriot Estate Agents Association, speaking to Milliyet paper, said that the situation, which is negative in the occupied areas after the Orams case, can be broken with a message from Turkey and the occupation regime that they are backing the title deeds. Mr Sungur said: We dont say to Prime Minister Erdogan to give a message. A statement of an official from Turkey or even a statement from the embassy in Lefkosia is enough for us. Mr Sungur asked from the occupation regime to support the title deeds.
Noting that for the real property sales Turkey and the Turkish army are a huge influence, Mr Sungur said: When we sold real property to the foreigners we were giving them security by telling them Turkey is here, the Turkish army is here. However, during the last period a feeling was created among the foreigners that Turkey doesnt support the TRNC. This is very bad. We attach great importance to Turkey and to the existence of the Turkish Armed Forces. Mr Sungur concluded by saying that the prices of the real property with Turkish Cypriot title deeds have increased and on the other hand they cannot find buyers for the real property which belongs to the Greek Cypriots.
The paper also reports that Mr Soner Yetkili, the Chairman of the Turkish Cypriot Building Contractors’ Union, said that the sales to British has come to a stop with the Orams case and added: We should create alternatives other than the EU countries. We should turn our advertising campaign towards the Middle East countries
ABAG
ALONG WITH MARK AND HAYRAN UNWIN MUST NEVER HAPPEN TO ANY HUMAN BEING AGAIN, ALONG WITH A NORTH CYPRUS LAWYER
June 30, 2009 Leave a comment
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AGA ROBB WIFE OF GARY ROBB !
June 29, 2009 Leave a comment
AGA ROBB WIFE OF GARY ROBB !
In Turkish
“Yakında aramıza gelecek”
07-02-2009
Gary Robb’un vatandaşlığını iade davası heyet oluşmadığı gerekçesiyle dün gerçekleştirilemedi. Mahkeme 11 Mart’a ertelendi.
Gazetemize açıklamalarda bulunan Gary Robb’un eşi Agatha Robb eşinden haber aldığını vurgulayarak “Mahkemede Morali yüksektir. Orada önümüzdeki günlerde beklediği mutluluk haberini alacak. Bundan sonrası artık Allahın elindedir. Biz suçsuz olduğumuza inanmaktayız. Yakında aramıza gelecek” dedi.
Talat Refiker, Necmettin Bostancı ve Narin Şefik’ten oluşan Yüksek Mahkeme Heyeti, Narin Şefik’in mazereti nedeniyle oturumlarını gerçekleştiremedi. Mahkeme 11 Mart tarihine ertelendi.
Burada, Gary Robb’un avukatları, bu konuda haklı olduklarını ve dünkü dava görüşülseydi vatandaşlığı geri alacaklarına emindiler.
Öte yandan Muhaceret Yasasında, verilen bu yurttaşlığın alınış şekli ile bir bağlantı da bulunmamaktadır. Yasa tatbik edilirse yurttaşlığın alınmaması gerekirdi ve geri verilmesi gerekmektedir.
Agatha Robb
Bu arada Gary Robb’un karısı Agatha Robb dün muhabirimize şu açıklamada bulundu:
“Ne söyleyeceğimi bilmiyorum, Gördüğüm kadarı ile bize adil davranılmamaktadır. Nereden başlayacağımı da bilemiyorum. Başından beri yapılan her şey yanlıştı. Adadan ayrılış şekilleri yanlıştı zaten hep yanlış davranıldı bize karşı. Gary eğer aranan bir suçlu olsaydı İngiliz Yüksek Komiserliği onun pasaportunu neden temdit etmişti? Ben suçlu olduğuna inanmıyorum. Bugün burada, mahkeme kararı ile kimlik kartını geri almak için bulunuyoruz ama mahkeme Mart ayının 11 ne tehir oldu.”
Haber aldım
Muhabirimiz Agatha Robb’a Gary Robb’dan herhangi bir haber aldınız mı ? sorusuna karşılık da şu cevabı aldı
“Evet aldım,durumu iyi. Kardeşi bize “Onu ziyaret ettim ve bana iyi olduğunu söyledi. Morali yüksektir. Orada önümüzdeki günlerde beklediği mutluluk haberini alacak. Bundan sonrası artık Allahın elindedir. Biz suçsuz olduğumuza inanmaktayız. Yakında aramıza gelecek.”
"Soon, we come"
07-02-2009
Return the case to create a delegation Gary Robb’un nationality could not be performed before yesterday. Court was postponed to March 11.
Gary found his wife to explain to our newspaper Robb’un received news from his wife Agatha Robb emphasized the "high morale is in court. There is waiting for the next day to take your happy news. Then now is the hands of Allah. We believe we are innocent. Soon we come, "he said.
Talat Refiker, Necmettin Bostancı and a Supreme Court tribunal in Sefik Narin, Narin’s an excuse because Sefik session could not perform. Court date of March 11 has been postponed.
Here, Gary Robb’un lawyers, they are right on this issue and get back to yesterday’s claim of citizenship sure you have been.
On the other hand Muhaceret law, the receipt of that citizenship does not have a link with shape. Citizenship should not be applied is the law and should be returned.
Agatha Robb
In the meantime, our reporter yesterday that Gary Robb Robb’un Agatha wife was found to explain: "I do not know what to say, I see us with that are not being fair. Where to start or do not know. Every thing was wrong from the beginning. Departure from the island was the wrong way already was always done wrong against us. Gary if you have a criminal search if the British High Commissioner why his passport was prolong? I do not believe is guilty. Here today, the court decision to revoke the ID cards are available, but the court’s March 11 suspension what happened. " I got the news Our reporters have received any Robb’dan Agatha Robb’a Gary Do? took the money and that the answer to question "Yes I have received, the situation is good. Her sister to us "I have visited him and said it was good to me. Morale is high. There is waiting for the next day to take your happy news. Then now is the hands of Allah. We believe we are innocent. Soon we will come.
Dedicated to the North and South of Cyprus
June 29, 2009 Leave a comment
From Sandra (Leeds)!!
Dedicated to the North and South of Cyprus,
some British humour.
AGA BUYERS ACTION GROUP WILL HAVE TO GET THE BANNERS OUT AND PROTEST OUTSIDE THE TRNC OFFICES IN LONDON
June 28, 2009 Leave a comment
WELL FOLKS IT LOOKS LIKE ONCE AGAIN THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE AGA BUYERS ACTION GROUP WILL HAVE TO GET THE BANNERS OUT AND PROTEST OUTSIDE THE TRNC OFFICES IN LONDON, ALONG WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS, AFTER 6 YEARS OF LISTENING TO CRAP FROM ALL SIDES,
THIS NEW GOVERNMENT NEED TO KNOW THAT SOME AGA VICTIMS WILL NOT BE USED ANY MORE AS POLITICAL FOOTBALLS, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE NICE TO MEET THE NEW GOVERNMENT TO SEE EXACTLY WHERE THEY STAND, REGARDING ALLEDGED CRIMINALS AND THEIR WIVES AND GIRLFRIENDS,EX DIRECTORS,WHO DISAPPEAR, AND ESTATE AGENTS WHO HAVE WASHED THEIR HANDS OF AGA (WAS THE BLEACH STRONG ENOUGH)??? APPARANTLY NOT!!!!
YES, THERE IS ONLY SO MUCH CRAP A HUMAN BEING CAN TAKE, SO EITHER ALL YOU AGA VICTIMS OUT THERE CONTINUE BEING TREATED LIKE IDIOTS AND THE PIT AWAITS US ALL, OR FOR GOODNESS SAKE STAND UP AND BE COUNTED, AND FIGHT FOR WHAT’S RIGHT, SURELY YOU ALL CAN SEE IT’S TIME?? OR MAYBE NOT, PERHAPS SHADOWS WHO PRETEND THAT THEY HAVE FOUND A WAY FORWARD WILL CONTINUE FOR YOU ALL, AND ANOTHER 6 YEARS OF CRAP SUITS YOU???
WHO KNOWS!!!!!!!!!!
MAYBE DISNEY CRAP IS WHAT WE ALL NEED TO HELP US ALONG:-
CERTAINLY SEEMS SO FOR SOME!!! " AIRY FAIRY LAND " BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE BORDER HAS A LOT OF CRAP, MORE THAN ENOUGH FOR DECENT HUMAN BEINGS?? OR PERHAPS LIKE SOME ANIMALS WALLOWING IN CRAP SUITS YOU??
THE DEFINITION OF FRAGMENTED:- " PIECES BROKEN OR ISOLATED"
EVERY SINGLE HONEST AGA VICTIM IS EITHER BROKEN, IN PIECES, OR ISOLATED, HOW SAD IS THAT???
PAT
STOP-PRESS
MikeHBPG Today at 3:24 pm
Latest news Gary Robb
It was confirmed that Gary Robb’s Kimlik has been revoked in today’s Kibris newspaper. We will be checking into the implications for the United Aga project over the next day or so.
Best regards
Mike HBPG
http://www.kibrisgazetesi.com/index.php/cat/2/news/74185/PageName/Ic_Haberler
Bakanlar Kurulu, Gary John Robb’un KKTC yurttaşlığının iptaline karar verdi. 15 Haziran 2009 tarihli Resmi Gazete’de yayınlanan kararda Robb’un yurttaşlık alırken yalan beyanda bulunduğu ve önemli hususları gizlediği bu nedenle yurttaşlığının iptaline karar verildiği yer aldı.
Kararda, “Bakanlar Kurulu 6. 9. 1962 South Shields doğumlu Gary John Robb’un önergede detaylandırıldığı üzere, KKTC yurttaşlığı alırken yalan beyanda bulunduğu ve önemli hususları gizlediği saptandığından 25\1993 sayılı Yurttaşlık Yasası’nın 16 (1) maddesi uyarınca KKTC yurttaşlığına alınma kararının ve KKTC yurttaşlığının iptal edilmesine karar verdi” denildi.
Gary Robb, Kıbrıs’ta AGA Development isimli bir şirketin ortağı olarak emlak işine girmişti. Özellikle Girne’de inşa ettiği lüks villaları Avrupalılara pazarlayarak işlerini büyütmüştü. Ancak Robb, 2005 yılında 600 müşterisinin 10 milyon sterlinini alarak yurt dışına kaçmıştı. Robb’un, emlak şirketiyle müşterilerini dolandırdığı iddiaları ve KKTC vatandaşlığına alınması konuları uzun süre tartışılmıştı.
In North Cyprus we have today received more documentation regarding AGA Development
June 22, 2009 1 Comment
Today we have received more documentation regarding AGA Development
These can be seen above in the file Protocol and are docs 10 – 14
They relate to the following:-
Doc.1: The first three are the names of the directors and the fourth one name of the Secretary of the company.
Doc. 2: The registered address of the company
Doc. 3: The shareholders of the company.
Doc. 4: The date the company was formed.
Doc. 5: Introduction from a company based in Turkey. Effectively they work on principle of "Barter" i.e. they do work in return for goods or products produced. They are forming an agency in TRNC and looking into the fields of tourism and construction of buildings and they say that they have begun examining the situation of Aga Developments. Presumably they will offer to finish some houses in return for some of the properties
We see that these documents are dated from 6th Feb 09. In Doc 1 Cafer Gurcafer is named as a director of AGA along with Gary Robb & Kutsel Tokatlioglu (hmm where is Tahir ?) and Mert Guclu is Company Secretary
Doc 3 is interesting as we see the reappearance of the name AKAN KURSAT son of one Talat Kursat Lawyer In Girne who was originally the lawyer for Gary Robb & AGA Development. AKAN KURSAT was allegedly a director of AGA Finance who supposedly along with Debbie Jones (now Kocak) & Tahir ripped Gary Robb off while he was in Thailand !!!!
Copies of the documents can be obtained from:- agabuyersactiongroup@yahoo.co.uk
The Plot Thickens – more later
IN NORTH CYPRUS GJR/AGA DEVELOPMENT DEMAND A FURTHER £5 MILLION !
June 21, 2009 Leave a comment
TAKEN FROM THE TRNC-AGA-BUYERS FORUMOTION PRIVATE BULLETIN BOARD
WEEKLY REPORT 19 JUN 09
amarantacommittee Today at 4:41 pm
Having previously been assured by Gary and Aga Robb that they did not wish to make anything from Amaranta as long as it got finished for the customers we were shocked early this week to hear from Gary’s lawyer that he is now asking £5 million to hand the project over to Kutsel which effectively kills the investment option we have been pursuing stone dead.
Since receiving this information we have not been able to contact Aga and she has not been answering our calls or text messages.
We are still in weekly contact with Hassan Sungar who is most supportive and he is continuing to try to arrange a meeting for us with the Interior Ministry, in particular with the Deputy Interior Minister who’s appointment is yet to be ratified by the President (Politics). Hassan is very optomistic that the appointee with be sympathetic and proactive to our cause.
We have read DJ’s proposals on the BB as far as they go and we wish him the very best of luck in his efforts. We will be only too glad to give him any support and assistance that we can should he be able to come to the TRNC and find out exactly what the situation is on the ground. We say this because there are so many and varied problems that we all face that need to be addressed in-situ which cannot be dealt with at a distance and we feel that it is imperative that anyone seeking a solution comes to the TRNC for an extended period to find the facts and see exactly what the problems faced are for themselves.
Gary having his Kimlik Card back and the issue of the court case in the UK possibly being quashed because he was effectively kidnapped and taken from the TRNC to the UK add further implications to the issue and until things become clear on the 4th July when his next hearing is due then we are all in very much on hold.
Regards
ABC
HOW SICKENING IS ABC LATEST REPORT, GJR WANTS 5 MILLION POUNDS FROM HIS VICTIMS TO HAND OVER AMARANTA VALLEY, JUST HOW SICKENING IS THIS MAN AND HIS FAMILY?
HOW SICKENING IS THE PAST TRNC GOVERNMENT TO HAVE LET THIS MAN USE DECENT HARD WORKING VICTIMS, FOR HIS OWN END, AND THAT OF THE PAST TRNC GOVERNMENT (I HAVE NO DOUBT)!! ALONG WITH THE TRNC OFFICE IN LONDON!!
HOW SICKENING IS IT THAT IT HAS TAKEN SOME (NOT ALL) AGA VICTIMS NEARLY 6 YEARS TO REALISE WHAT GJR AND AGA ARE ABOUT??
HOW SICKENING IS IT THAT A BRITISH GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL IN NICOSIA RENEWED GJR’S PASSPORT LETTING HIM CONTINUE TO STEAL HIS VICTIMS MONEY??
IF I HAVE TO STAND ALONE OUTSIDE THE TRNC OFFICE IN LONDON WITH MY BANNER THEN THAT’S WHAT I WILL DO, THE REST OF THE WORLD MUST KNOW THAT THE TRNC ARE NOT TO BE TRUSTED IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM, THE GOVERNMENT WHO HAVE JUST DISAPPEARED, OR THE NEW GOVERNMENT, WHO DON’T SEEM TO WANT TO COMMUNICATE WITH ANYONE MUST ANSWER FOR LETTING GJR AND THE REST OF AGA’S DIRECTORS STEAL NOT ONLY OUR MONEY BUT OUR LIVES!!
SICKENING FOR SO MANY AGA VICTIMS, SICKENING FOR ME PERSONALLY, MAYBE SOME VICTIMS STILL ARE AFRAID OF STANDING UP AND BEING COUNTED, WELL NOT ME, THE BRITISH AGA DIRECTOR AND HIS FELLOW DIRECTORS ALONG WITH THE TRNC GOVERNMENT DESERVE EVERYTHING THROWN AT THEM, AND THE GOVERNMENTS OFFICES IN BEDFORD SQUARE WILL BE MY FIRST PORT OF CALL.
MY DIRTY LINEN IS DIRTY BECAUSE I WAS DAFT ENOUGH 6 YEARS AGO TO BELIEVE IN THE TURKISH REPUBLIC OF NORTHERN CYPRUS, AND I DIDN’T REALISE THAT GJR ALLEGEDLY WAS A FUGITIVE WHO THE GOVERNMENT ALLOWED TO CONTINUE HIS DIRTY WORK, KNOWING WHERE HE CAME FROM!!!!!!
IT’S NOT MY DIRTY LINEN THAT WANTS CLEANING, TRNC CLEAN UP YOUR OWN MESS, FILTH WILL ALWAY MULTIPLY UNLESS YOU BRING OUT THE BLEACH, AND BOY DOES YOUR UNRECOGNISED COUNTRY NEED BUCKET LOADS OF THE STUFF
PAT
In North Cyprus ABAG’s answers to further comment on the TRNC-AGA-BUYERS-FORUMOTION BB
June 17, 2009 1 Comment
Our answers to further comment on the TRNC-AGA-BUYERS-FORUMOTION BB in response to our offer of an Account Audit on the £1.3 million received by the Amaranta Buyers Committee on behalf of AGA Development throughout 2008
Questions
Re: ESCROW ACCOUNT
carol on Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:23 pm
While I apreciate AGAG,s offer to arrange for an audit If they really want to offer some contructive help to us 97 buyers perhaps they could stop holding us to ransom with thier injunctions. If my recall is correct they do not intend to lift these untill they have full compensation they will not take us 97 buyers into consideration in persueing thier aims If this is the case then it would seem this offer of help leaves a sour taste
Mark
carol
chrismike2330 on Mon Jun 15, 2009 1:57 pm
Mark
My sentiments entirely, and I have had this conversation with ABAG and it is like talking to a brick wall. I do not want there wishes on my land, do as they see fit on there,s only ,not to dictate to the rest of us
Chris
chrismike2330
Answers
When will some of the AGA Victims realise that even if we remove our Injunction Absolute, there are in excess of another 20 with injunctions behind us. One victim even has an injunction absolute that covers 30 donums, which rather cancels out your comment Mark.
Our offer of an Account audit is to benefit those who have paid their honest monies into a protocol that was not forthcoming. Many of these victims will need proof for Her Majesty’s Revenue & Customs; we are simply offering a no strings attached service. If this leaves a sour taste in your mouth Mark then so be it, but removing our injunction will not make one iota of difference to the valley.
Again, to Chris this time, it is not only “ our wishes ” on the land but many others, as for brick walls – those who paid £1.3 million over the last year have for enough of them to last a lifetime !
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